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Rich Lemert wrote:In addition to the excellent advice you've already received, I'd add two comments.
First, you seem to be putting a lot of energy into worrying about things you can't control. So you think the director is being rude/is jealous/whatever - what are you going to be able to do about it? There is only one person who's actions/attitudes you can control - focus on that person.
Second, if the situation is as you describe, do you really want that position? As I said, you're not going to miraculously going to change them. Chances are you get in that group and - assuming you've accurately described their attitudes - they're going to make your life miserable.
PG wrote:When you are in a situation in which you dont understand why a person is doing something it can often be helpful to see things from the other persons perspective. I will give you a hypothertical scenario that doesnt have anything to do with jealousy.
If you are a hiring manager and have found a candidate that you like, someone who fulfills the requirements for the position and that you Believe would work well with the rest of your team and be motivated to stay in this position for several years. In this situation your manager shows up and strongly recommends another candidate. You dont know if this recommendation is because this new candidate is a friend of your manager, if the person comes through other contacts or if the new candidate is actually a good candidate with the correct competence for the position.
Most likely you will not be overly enthusiastic when meeting the candidate the first time and if you in this meeting find something that speaks against the candidate such as that he is overqualified for the position and therefore likely to move on to something else in the near future you might find yourself stuck in less than comfortable situation were your boss wants you to hire someone that you dont want to hire.
If your boss hadnt pushed for this new candidate it would have been an easy decision not to hire this new candidate since you already have someone with a better fit (and that people dont get an offer because they are overqualified happens all the time). In the current situation it gets more complicated.
Ássuming that the new candidate cant convince you to hire him the best outcome is that you both agree that he isnt a good hire for example due to being overqualified. If you both agree you will have an easy discussion with your boss and in this situation you might actually support this candidate when a position comes that he is a good fit for.
D.X. wrote:I think a key Topic missing on this Forum is "when to stop chasing a lead". Or when to take the brave and self-protecting decision to back off or park a lead or pursuit of an opportunity.
Either cut it completely or park it for a much later reactivation sometime in the distant future when you think the time is ripe. DX
D.X. wrote:
Also PG raises some good Points. Nate seems to expect that hiring Managers have all this time in the world to Focus on candidates, to chase and butter them up, and do the best to attract them. Maybe that was the behavior many years ago. For the most part, this is not the case today. Hiring Managers do have thier day Job to do and limited time or interest to thinking how to appease a Job seeker. DX
D.X. wrote:
And remember, more often - when you think there is jealousy, thats intagible and most likely unsustantiated. The more tangible reality is that Person doesn't want to work with you due to personality conflict, not fear of your Talent/Expertise - remember, the Boss is the Boss, rare you'll ever outshine a Boss if anything - and if you to think you're so much better that the Boss, then your Job is make the Boss shine via your Talent, make them out shine others - you'll be rewarded more on that front that the other way. Consider you should view your Boss as your Partner not as Person antagonistic to your career - any other view well...i suggest starting your own Business - you're just Setting yourself for bad outcomes at the very start.
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