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about faculty recruiting

Postby Dylan » Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:38 pm

I am a graduate student in a basic science department in a midwest public medical school. My department has recruited several new assistant professors. I happen to notice that none of the new faculty brings in grant money. Although several other candicates have very strong publication record, they were not even interviewed. The people hired on average did their post-doc for 3-4 yrs. Do you think what happened here is typical?


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about faculty recruiting

Postby John_Mastro » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:37 am

something is amiss in your story. If they get no grant money they will lose their jobs. End of story.
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about faculty recruiting

Postby dylan » Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:55 am

I am talking about people who just got hire. Before they did not have grant money when they started.

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Postby Andy » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:02 pm

Most new faculty hires don't have their own grant money coming in. Some do. But most don't. Universities hire people whom they believe will bring grant money in after a year or two. Meanwhile, they provide them with a startup package of several hundred thousand dollars to get their research going.

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Postby Madison » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:13 pm

You can't get most grant money (i.e. RO1s) until you are in a faculty position. And then you can't get them until you establish independence from your post-doctoral mentor through putting out at least 1 research paper in your new lab, with your postdoc PI NOT ON the paper.

3-4 years is the standard time in postdoctoral training for new faculty. If you're a postdoc longer than this, your chances of getting a faculty position go down dramatically. If you try for faculty jobs after only 1-2 years of postdoc, you may not have enough papers to be competitive. My point is, the new faculty you talk about seem to be completely typical.
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