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Applying w/a company that turned me down.

Postby James » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:37 pm

Dear Dave,

I had applied for a licensing position with a mid-sized pharma. company in the summer of 2003. I made it to the final two candidates. I came in under a recruiter. The pharma. said that they like me but that I was soft in in-licensing. At the time, I had only done out-licensing. Since then I have obtained over a year of in-licensing experience at a Big Pharma.

The company that I turned me down in 2003 is now advertising for a licensing position. The job description is the same as in 2003. I would like to apply for this job.

Is there anything wrong with applying for this position? Also, I was wondering if I should let the VP that I interviewed with know that I had applied? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.



Applying w/a company that turned me down.

Postby A. Sam » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:19 pm

That reminds me to tack on a follow-up question to Dave (or whomever). I wouldn't be surprised if the position James applied for is the exact same job that's now open again because the person they hired instead of him didn't last very long. I'll bet it happens quite a bit where a new hire will last less than a year. Dave (or whomever), would you agree that it's rare for a hiring manager to call back the second and third best candidates a year later and ask them to consider the job again? If so, why? Are they embarrassed that they'll look like a lame recruiter and a lame boss? So much so that they'd rather start over with a fresh stack of resumes? If they assume that the alternate candidates would no longer be recruitable, that's probably a faulty assumption....
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Applying w/a company that turned me down.

Postby Dave Jensen » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:34 pm

James, there is no problem applying again to the same company, for a similar job. But keep in mind that you are just one piece of paper in a big pile of them, and it isn't until you escape that rut and go for direct contact with people that you stand a better chance of landing it. Going through the recruiter was not a problem if that person was a contracted source. (If that recruiter was just some sleazy resume-mailer operation, that's a different story . . . ).

For Sam, YES I AGREE. It is crazy for companies to start fresh with a new stack of candidates when someone leaves early like that. But 80-90% of the time, this is what they do. It is easier to just give the whole project back to the HR department, and let them do their thing. Smart managers -- people like Andrew or Kevin on this forum -- keep a file full of those applicants at their OWN desk, and when this happens they dip back into that same prospect pool to talk to other candidates whom they liked initially. But people like this are truly in the minority.

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Applying w/a company that turned me down.

Postby Emil Chuck » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:45 pm

It is possible that more than just one person works with that job title in that company. Your additional year experience should help your current application over your former one, so in this case, I'd say apply again with a newly updated application.

Now, I don't know whether one should note in the cover letter that you had previously applied and interviewed for a similar position (include the name of the interviewer), but I'd do it. I'd also send the packet directly to the person/VP who interviewed you, with a promise to contact him within a week to discuss the vacancy. Basically do whatever it takes to remind them that you were a strong candidate and that you are still very interested in working for that firm.
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