Is it worth the hassle to enter America?

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Is it worth the hassle to enter America?

Postby Paul » Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:40 pm

In June I went for an interview for an industrial position. It went very well and, before I left that day, the project coordinator laid it out straight that he wanted me and would be making me an offer. Less than one week later, the HR person calls to say that, because I had an "academic" H1B they would have to wait till october to be able to apply for an "industrial" H1B since the allowance for that year had been used. Since this was an open position due to someone leaving, they couldn't wait that long and so were not going to make me an offer.

Well, October just came and I got a phonecall last week asking me to come in for a "discussion". Turns out that they have been interviewing since June and still couldn't find someone as qualified or personable.

While I understand the need for homeland security (I was in Boston on Sept. 11th), it seems to me that the current situation with visas and/or getting a green card for Europeans just isn't worth the hassle.

Same issue seems to apply to obtaining tenure...Institutes don't want you while you are, technically, on a "temporary" work visa and, with the greencard application process taking so long, you end up falling into the trap of post-doc'ing for too long to become resident.

Is it worth the hassle to enter America?

Postby Bill L. & Naledi S. » Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:04 pm

Hi Paul - I hear this frustration almost daily from sharp scientists who could make a great contribution here if only they could get through the visa hoops to move to industry, or find a way to hold on until they can get the green card, qualify to apply for NIH funding and become more attractive for the academic track.

The good news is that it sounds like the worst might be over for you -- this company sounds like they're willing to get you through that hoop! Couldn't tell from your message but I hope you're going to take them up on it. Don't let your frustration keep you down!

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Is it worth the hassle to enter America?

Postby Dave Jensen » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:04 am

Hi Paul,

Over many years of recruiting I have found that some companies are very open to sponsoring people like yourself, and view this as a later issue to be decided after they have determined if you fit their company. About 20% of employers fall into that category. As an example, I was working with one company in Madison WI, a major supplier of reagents, but still only a mid-sized company, and they were indeed wide open to help out with the legal documents necessary, pay all the costs, etc. But that was ONLY after the candidate sold them on how they could benefit the team.

Another client, a major fortune 100 company in St. Louis, loved a particular job candidate but would do NOTHING to help that person and "if they don't have a green card already, we can't help them" was the attitude.

Yes, your job search is made much more difficult, but it can still be done if you find the right organization and truly do your interviewing well. Good luck!

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It might be a moot point...

Postby Jim Austin » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:00 am

Have you applied for the H1-B yet? According to the folks at DHS, the H1-B quota for the current fiscal year, which started only 12 days ago, has already been met, and further applications will be returned unreviewed.

Hope this doesn't mess things up for you.

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Is it worth the hassle to enter America? (Green Card)

Postby K Seth » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:04 pm


Have you looked into the Exceptional Ability categories of obtaining a green card? You say you\'re with Harvard. That should carry some weight.

Mine was done this way, but long time ago (8-9 yrs).

Like Bill and Naledi said, you\'ll probably get this job. But even then you can apply for your green card both via your employer, as well as under the category I mentioned.
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